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Prentice: 'If you own up to a crime, you can run for our PC party'
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ßeaverß
2015-04-30 00:40:19 UTC
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Oh, ya, Albertans . . . he really did say it. I guess that would apply to those accused of
murder, sexual assault, child porn - and other criminal acts as well? Own up to it, run for the PCs
. . . ?
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Canadian Press | http://news.nationalpost.com/ April 29, 2015


Jim Prentice defends PC Alberta election candidate convicted of soliciting prostitute


CALGARY — Alberta Premier Jim Prentice says a PC election candidate convicted of soliciting a
prostitute is acceptable because he owned up to what he did.
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Speaking on a provincewide radio talk show, Prentice said Mike Allen took responsibility and pleaded
guilty after he was caught in a sting operation while on government business in Minnesota in 2013.

Allen is the incumbent MLA for Fort McMurray-Wood Buffalo in next Tuesday’s election.

But Prentice said the party was correct in disqualifying Jamie Lall as a candidate in
Chestermere-Rockyview, because Lall once had a restraining order against him in relation to his
former girlfriend.

Prentice said the restraining order alone was enough to disallow Lall, but the other factor was that
Lall refused to tell the party.

Lall has said he did tell the Progressive Conservatives about it.
ßeaverß
2015-04-30 00:45:59 UTC
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Followup on the 'restraining order' guy involved:
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Postmedia News | April 29, 2015


Don Braid: Alberta Tories diverted by family quarrel as election day nears


The Progressive Conservative party is suddenly beset by restraining orders, family legal squabbles
and snotty text messages — all the hallmarks of the modern dysfunctional family.

This scandal is a huge distraction as the PCs try to get traction on a campaign that seems to be
slipping away from them. It not only bruises their already wobbly image but could cost them two
ridings: Chestermere-Rocky View and Calgary-Acadia.

And all because of a candidate scorned, Jamie Lall, who decided to run as an Independent and then
seek vengeance on the PC machine at a key moment in the campaign.

Lall was famously disqualified as a candidate for the PC nomination in Chestermere-Rocky View only a
few hours after Danielle Smith, and two other ex-Wildrosers, lost their nominations on March 28.

Lall was a loyal PC, a party veteran at a young age. But the PCs obviously wanted Bruce McAllister,
a floor crosser, as their candidate in the riding he won for Wildrose in 2012.

As early as Jan. 31, PC executive director Kelley Charlebois told Lall in a text message: “Don’t
want you in Chestermere.” A couple of weeks later he said: “I think it has more to do with who
you’re running against than you.”

That would support the common view that Lall got the boot for purely political reasons; the PCs
didn’t want yet another ‘crosser to lose a nomination.

But Premier Jim Prentice has always insisted there was good reason for Lall’s disqualification. It
was Lall’s subject to discuss, if he cared to, the premier said.

Lall didn’t reveal anything. But then, after he released the text messages, out it popped,
confirming a rumour that’s been circulating for weeks.

A court restraining order was granted against Lall in 2007 by an ex-girlfriend, who claimed she got
incessant calls and felt threatened after they broke up.

At this point it’s a case of he-said/she-said in Toryland. The PCs perhaps don’t grasp that in a
brawl like this, every attempt to win only makes everybody look worse.

The restraining order emphasizes, for instance, that while Lall can’t run as a Tory, former justice
minister Jonathan Denis remains the candidate in Calgary-Acadia after leaving the cabinet post
because of a legal dispute with his wife.


Suddenly, a lot of political people are nervously checking their text message strings.

A three-hour court hearing was held on that matter Tuesday, with everything under a publication ban,
a sideshow in the PC circus.

Prentice, without noticeable enthusiasm, says he still backs Denis as a candidate. “We press on,” he
said.

If there’s a collateral victim in this mess, it’s Denis, who sent texts to his friend Lall
supporting him as the party tried to strip away his right to run in Chestermere-Rocky View. “Buddy
you are being set up,” he wrote, after Lall said the party had a private investigator after him.

When Lall said the party told him the P.I is used to screen all candidates, Denis replied “BS. BS.
BS.” He advised Lall to get a lawyer.

Denis isn’t talking, but associates say he sent other text messages, pointing out to Lall that he
endorsed Bruce McAllister. Those weren’t released, they say.

They also note, correctly, that Denis publicly backed McAllister as early as Feb. 20, more than a
month before Lall was kicked out.

So there are questions about whether those texts are the full story, but Denis lost his cabinet job
and then unintentionally embarrassed his party.


Suddenly, a lot of political people are nervously checking their text message strings. Friends
aren’t forever in that game. Nor is privacy.

This whole mess stems from lingering poisonous fallout over the December floor-crossings that have
gone disastrously wrong for the PCs.

Smith herself might have got it right when she said: “The anger that was directed toward me when I
got defeated in my riding, I think it ricocheted … that anger had to go somewhere, so I think it
just sort of ricocheted back onto Prentice and the PCs.”

Jamie Lall sure was angry, with some reason. He ran for the PCs in unwinnable Calgary-Buffalo in
2012; he mediated riding factions as president of the Calgary-McCall riding association.

But when he wanted to run against an ex-Wildroser — one of the PCs’ most savage critics only months
ago — his party punted him.

So he decided to ricochet, no matter who got hit. It’s a mystery why the PC party didn’t see that
coming.
The Doctor
2015-04-30 11:51:59 UTC
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Postmedia News | April 29, 2015
Don Braid: Alberta Tories diverted by family quarrel as election day nears
The Progressive Conservative party is suddenly beset by restraining orders, family legal squabbles
and snotty text messages — all the hallmarks of the modern dysfunctional family.
This scandal is a huge distraction as the PCs try to get traction on a campaign that seems to be
slipping away from them. It not only bruises their already wobbly image but could cost them two
ridings: Chestermere-Rocky View and Calgary-Acadia.
And all because of a candidate scorned, Jamie Lall, who decided to run as an Independent and then
seek vengeance on the PC machine at a key moment in the campaign.
Lall was famously disqualified as a candidate for the PC nomination in Chestermere-Rocky View only a
few hours after Danielle Smith, and two other ex-Wildrosers, lost their nominations on March 28.
Lall was a loyal PC, a party veteran at a young age. But the PCs obviously wanted Bruce McAllister,
a floor crosser, as their candidate in the riding he won for Wildrose in 2012.
As early as Jan. 31, PC executive director Kelley Charlebois told Lall in a text message: “Don’t
want you in Chestermere.” A couple of weeks later he said: “I think it has more to do with who
you’re running against than you.”
That would support the common view that Lall got the boot for purely political reasons; the PCs
didn’t want yet another ‘crosser to lose a nomination.
But Premier Jim Prentice has always insisted there was good reason for Lall’s disqualification. It
was Lall’s subject to discuss, if he cared to, the premier said.
Lall didn’t reveal anything. But then, after he released the text messages, out it popped,
confirming a rumour that’s been circulating for weeks.
A court restraining order was granted against Lall in 2007 by an ex-girlfriend, who claimed she got
incessant calls and felt threatened after they broke up.
At this point it’s a case of he-said/she-said in Toryland. The PCs perhaps don’t grasp that in a
brawl like this, every attempt to win only makes everybody look worse.
The restraining order emphasizes, for instance, that while Lall can’t run as a Tory, former justice
minister Jonathan Denis remains the candidate in Calgary-Acadia after leaving the cabinet post
because of a legal dispute with his wife.
Suddenly, a lot of political people are nervously checking their text message strings.
A three-hour court hearing was held on that matter Tuesday, with everything under a publication ban,
a sideshow in the PC circus.
Prentice, without noticeable enthusiasm, says he still backs Denis as a candidate. “We press on,” he
said.
If there’s a collateral victim in this mess, it’s Denis, who sent texts to his friend Lall
supporting him as the party tried to strip away his right to run in Chestermere-Rocky View. “Buddy
you are being set up,” he wrote, after Lall said the party had a private investigator after him.
When Lall said the party told him the P.I is used to screen all candidates, Denis replied “BS. BS.
BS.” He advised Lall to get a lawyer.
Denis isn’t talking, but associates say he sent other text messages, pointing out to Lall that he
endorsed Bruce McAllister. Those weren’t released, they say.
They also note, correctly, that Denis publicly backed McAllister as early as Feb. 20, more than a
month before Lall was kicked out.
So there are questions about whether those texts are the full story, but Denis lost his cabinet job
and then unintentionally embarrassed his party.
Suddenly, a lot of political people are nervously checking their text message strings. Friends
aren’t forever in that game. Nor is privacy.
This whole mess stems from lingering poisonous fallout over the December floor-crossings that have
gone disastrously wrong for the PCs.
Smith herself might have got it right when she said: “The anger that was directed toward me when I
got defeated in my riding, I think it ricocheted 
 that anger had to go somewhere, so I think it
just sort of ricocheted back onto Prentice and the PCs.”
Jamie Lall sure was angry, with some reason. He ran for the PCs in unwinnable Calgary-Buffalo in
2012; he mediated riding factions as president of the Calgary-McCall riding association.
But when he wanted to run against an ex-Wildroser — one of the PCs’ most savage critics only months
ago — his party punted him.
So he decided to ricochet, no matter who got hit. It’s a mystery why the PC party didn’t see that
coming.
PCs killed to infighting.
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The Doctor
2015-04-30 11:51:32 UTC
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Oh, ya, Albertans . . . he really did say it. I guess that would apply to those accused of
murder, sexual assault, child porn - and other criminal acts as well? Own up to it, run for the PCs
. . . ?
_________________________________________________________
Canadian Press | http://news.nationalpost.com/ April 29, 2015
Jim Prentice defends PC Alberta election candidate convicted of soliciting prostitute
CALGARY — Alberta Premier Jim Prentice says a PC election candidate convicted of soliciting a
prostitute is acceptable because he owned up to what he did.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Speaking on a provincewide radio talk show, Prentice said Mike Allen took responsibility and pleaded
guilty after he was caught in a sting operation while on government business in Minnesota in 2013.
Allen is the incumbent MLA for Fort McMurray-Wood Buffalo in next Tuesday’s election.
But Prentice said the party was correct in disqualifying Jamie Lall as a candidate in
Chestermere-Rockyview, because Lall once had a restraining order against him in relation to his
former girlfriend.
Prentice said the restraining order alone was enough to disallow Lall, but the other factor was that
Lall refused to tell the party.
Lall has said he did tell the Progressive Conservatives about it.
Prentice is a goner!
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God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
Alberta time to save the province from corruption! Vote Liberal on 5 May 2015!!
Canuck57
2015-04-30 16:45:30 UTC
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Lets hope people are angry enough at Prentice, Redford, Stelmach....

To add, in 2010 Bailout Jim supported GM, auto and bank bailouts, then
took a patronage executive position at CIBC.

And committed Albertans to contribute to bailouts of uncommon good.

As of this writing, back room statism friendly CBC hasn't printed the
story below.

But hey, Tax'em'sheep some more Bailout Jim might win if people don't
learn. To borrow from Einstein....

Insanity: Voting the same way and expecting better results.

After all, Bailout Jim kept on the people who let Redford happen and now
wants us to pay for government bloated to be immune...

Time to send Bailout buddy Jim a packing.
Post by ßeaverß
Oh, ya, Albertans . . . he really did say it. I guess that would
apply to those accused of murder, sexual assault, child porn - and other
criminal acts as well? Own up to it, run for the PCs . . . ?
_________________________________________________________
Canadian Press | http://news.nationalpost.com/ April 29, 2015
Jim Prentice defends PC Alberta election candidate convicted of soliciting prostitute
CALGARY — Alberta Premier Jim Prentice says a PC election candidate
convicted of soliciting a prostitute is acceptable because he owned up
to what he did.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Speaking on a provincewide radio talk show, Prentice said Mike Allen
took responsibility and pleaded guilty after he was caught in a sting
operation while on government business in Minnesota in 2013.
Allen is the incumbent MLA for Fort McMurray-Wood Buffalo in next Tuesday’s election.
But Prentice said the party was correct in disqualifying Jamie Lall as a
candidate in Chestermere-Rockyview, because Lall once had a restraining
order against him in relation to his former girlfriend.
Prentice said the restraining order alone was enough to disallow Lall,
but the other factor was that Lall refused to tell the party.
Lall has said he did tell the Progressive Conservatives about it.
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Socialist-statism corruption is a great idea so long as the credit is
good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those
that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing but
unemployment, debt and discontentment.
Sharx35
2015-05-01 02:27:47 UTC
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"Canuck57" wrote in message news:Q_s0x.5211$***@fx08.iad...


Lets hope people are angry enough at Prentice, Redford, Stelmach....

To add, in 2010 Bailout Jim supported GM, auto and bank bailouts, then
took a patronage executive position at CIBC.

And committed Albertans to contribute to bailouts of uncommon good.

As of this writing, back room statism friendly CBC hasn't printed the
story below.

But hey, Tax'em'sheep some more Bailout Jim might win if people don't
learn. To borrow from Einstein....

Insanity: Voting the same way and expecting better results.

After all, Bailout Jim kept on the people who let Redford happen and now
wants us to pay for government bloated to be immune...

Time to send Bailout buddy Jim a packing.
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On THAT note, we certainly agree!
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Post by ßeaverß
Oh, ya, Albertans . . . he really did say it. I guess that would
apply to those accused of murder, sexual assault, child porn - and other
criminal acts as well? Own up to it, run for the PCs . . . ?
_________________________________________________________
Canadian Press | http://news.nationalpost.com/ April 29, 2015
Jim Prentice defends PC Alberta election candidate convicted of soliciting prostitute
CALGARY — Alberta Premier Jim Prentice says a PC election candidate
convicted of soliciting a prostitute is acceptable because he owned up
to what he did.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Speaking on a provincewide radio talk show, Prentice said Mike Allen
took responsibility and pleaded guilty after he was caught in a sting
operation while on government business in Minnesota in 2013.
Allen is the incumbent MLA for Fort McMurray-Wood Buffalo in next Tuesday’s election.
But Prentice said the party was correct in disqualifying Jamie Lall as a
candidate in Chestermere-Rockyview, because Lall once had a restraining
order against him in relation to his former girlfriend.
Prentice said the restraining order alone was enough to disallow Lall,
but the other factor was that Lall refused to tell the party.
Lall has said he did tell the Progressive Conservatives about it.
--
Socialist-statism corruption is a great idea so long as the credit is
good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those
that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing but
unemployment, debt and discontentment.
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